tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post7723672074287062268..comments2024-03-27T23:59:49.801+00:00Comments on Stoat: The Jeffrey Epstein Case Is Like Nothing I’ve Seen Before?William M. Connolleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05836299130680534926noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-52974159345038186072019-07-27T00:42:33.578+00:002019-07-27T00:42:33.578+00:00David, nobody could make up Aristotle OnassisDavid,<i> nobody </i> could make up Aristotle OnassisTHE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-89718841102175822512019-07-15T18:49:29.000+00:002019-07-15T18:49:29.000+00:00David Brin commented some years back that those in...David Brin commented some years back that those interested in a political career should beware situations setting people up in compromising positions to have the possibility later of using that to blackmail them.Hank Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08250909827278146355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-46721816183846281882019-07-14T05:01:58.313+00:002019-07-14T05:01:58.313+00:00What are the odds that Scotland will leave the uni...What are the odds that Scotland will leave the union before Northern Ireland? David B. Bensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15914145623997712113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-69487817639371029542019-07-14T00:10:20.950+00:002019-07-14T00:10:20.950+00:00Don't know as it has never been tried. Don&#...Don't know as it has never been tried. Don't just Make Stuff Up. David B. Bensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15914145623997712113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-49722846487591472512019-07-13T23:23:26.731+00:002019-07-13T23:23:26.731+00:00What about the Aristotlacratic form of government ...What about the Aristotlacratic form of government ?<br /><br />It aspires to the Good by limiting the franchise to voters named Aristotle, reasoning that as people tend to read books with their names on them,far more voters would read the <i> Politics</i> than is the case with the present electorate.THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-28170547303879690772019-07-13T18:56:17.623+00:002019-07-13T18:56:17.623+00:00@WC 13:38 - Actually, wealth has zero votes. The ...@WC 13:38 - Actually, wealth has zero votes. The top 0.01 of voters by wealth has 0.01 of the votes and roughly 40% of the control. CapitalistImperialistPighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17523405806602731435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-29590520869921451802019-07-13T16:19:16.095+00:002019-07-13T16:19:16.095+00:00...except for all those other forms that have bee......except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.<br />Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567197089095711546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-1479559284955842752019-07-13T16:18:58.158+00:002019-07-13T16:18:58.158+00:00I'd even go so far as to say that democracy ...I'd even go so far as to say that democracy is the worst form of Government...Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567197089095711546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-72700301155528722052019-07-13T14:28:58.548+00:002019-07-13T14:28:58.548+00:00No, I agree that democracy is a bad system. Said t...No, I agree that democracy is a bad system. Said that multiple times.<br />Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567197089095711546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-68817501055737818432019-07-13T13:58:23.199+00:002019-07-13T13:58:23.199+00:00...which is why you need to rad Aristotle. Or, the......which is why you need to rad Aristotle. Or, the words I write. Extremes are bad. Is this a hard idea to understand? Extreme govt by money is bad. You can understand that yourself, because it fits easily into your prejudices. Extreme govt by voting is also bad. You struggle with this idea.William M. Connolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05836299130680534926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-91467929644145566522019-07-13T13:55:15.564+00:002019-07-13T13:55:15.564+00:00End point for ODOV is the Pharaoh.
Has all the Dra...End point for ODOV is the Pharaoh.<br />Has all the Drachmas, so has all the votes. So he can rape all the little girls he wants to.<br /><br />Or remembering Hastert, little boys.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567197089095711546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-47238069543722537412019-07-13T13:38:49.047+00:002019-07-13T13:38:49.047+00:00> votes should be inversely related to wealth
...> votes should be inversely related to wealth<br /><br />But they already are: the top 10% of the wealth has only 0.01% of the vote...<br /><br />> OWOV<br /><br />Wouldn't help. But does point out another advantage of ODOV: no gender.William M. Connolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05836299130680534926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-31840448325507920592019-07-13T10:12:16.590+00:002019-07-13T10:12:16.590+00:00CIP --- Using theory 1, I advocate OWOV strictly e...CIP --- Using theory 1, I advocate OWOV strictly enforced. David B. Bensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15914145623997712113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-29567074784356363202019-07-13T09:48:19.136+00:002019-07-13T09:48:19.136+00:00@DBB - Alternative theory - Omov and Odov are the ...@DBB - Alternative theory - Omov and Odov are the names of WC's male children.CapitalistImperialistPighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17523405806602731435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-76168421392168324482019-07-13T09:42:28.734+00:002019-07-13T09:42:28.734+00:00@DBB Translating Connolley speak: OMOV -> One ...@DBB Translating Connolley speak: OMOV -> One Man One Vote and ODMV -> One Drachma One Vote<br /><br />@WC - If you really want to balance power ala Aristotle, votes should be inversely related to wealth. For example: top 1% get no vote, 80th% to 99th get one vote, 60th to 79th get two votes, 40th to 59th get 3 votes, second lowest quintile, 4 votes and lowest quintile get 5 votes.CapitalistImperialistPighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17523405806602731435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-51485662082107271502019-07-13T08:02:00.123+00:002019-07-13T08:02:00.123+00:00What is OMOV? ODOV? What is OMOV? ODOV? David B. Bensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15914145623997712113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-20481643624050000382019-07-13T06:31:01.438+00:002019-07-13T06:31:01.438+00:00> why you are so sure that it's rich people...> why you are so sure that it's rich people who don't have their share of control<br /><br />I don't know why you think I think that. I can try again I suppose: the simplistic OMOV (and then a totally neutral idealistic govt) seems to be a model that many people defend as the ideal. A's view (simplistically represented as some blend of OMOV / ODOV) is that that model isn't even a good ideal. I think we're closer to the OMOV / ODOV mix, and that things would be better if we'd both admit that it is true, and reasonable.William M. Connolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05836299130680534926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-16069157683110977762019-07-13T04:54:06.097+00:002019-07-13T04:54:06.097+00:00I don't doubt balancing was important to Arist...I don't doubt balancing was important to Aristotle. What I don't get is why you are so sure that it's rich people who don't have their share of control. <br /><br />I suppose you could be rich - or are convinced that you will be.CapitalistImperialistPighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17523405806602731435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-84014481138794616182019-07-12T15:34:29.950+00:002019-07-12T15:34:29.950+00:00> Aristotle's central point
We disagree as...> Aristotle's central point<br /><br />We disagree as to what his central point was. I think the "book" (actually lecture notes) is sufficiently rambling that it's hard to claim any central point. But if there is, the one he returns to again and again is the need to balance different power blocks / sections / factions / influences in society in order to obtain the desireable result of a stable constitution.<br /><br />> Pompeo:<br /><br />Good, innit? I plan to return to it.William M. Connolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05836299130680534926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-56078409153731893852019-07-12T08:51:52.723+00:002019-07-12T08:51:52.723+00:00Epstein left jail, where he was in a private wing ...Epstein left jail, where he was in a private wing anyway, 6 days a week to spend 13 hours in a comfortable office.<br /><br />He got out after 11 months (of a 13 month sentence). <br /><br />On return to New York, the New York District Attorney very obligingly petitioned the court to have his crime re-categorised so that he did not have to register as a sex offender. <br /><br />The judge (a woman) threw the application out, declaring (in a strange echo of this post's title) that she had never seen anything like it. But, that's ok - it was tolerable.<br /><br />Was the bold Jeffrey discouraged? No - he did not bother to register anyway, knowing that the tolerable legal system would imperfectly allow rich guys like him to do their own thing.<br /><br />If this is tolerable, then the Catholic Church was tolerable in posting paedophiles to new parishes.Tobyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03315547955416711269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-20742343750028685842019-07-12T01:59:44.083+00:002019-07-12T01:59:44.083+00:00Does Pompeo have a stoat for a speechwriter ?
His...Does Pompeo have a stoat for a speechwriter ?<br /><br />His linked remarks include the immortal<br /><br />" democracies have a tendency to lose sight of the big picture in the hurly-burly of everyday affairs"THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-48401795758724573872019-07-11T23:50:54.854+00:002019-07-11T23:50:54.854+00:00What you consider "tolerable" is, appare...What you consider "tolerable" is, apparently, ensuring that rich rapists of young girls may continue to rape. Because having to spend his evenings in his private prison was punishment enough.<br /><br />Your failure to understand Aristotle's central point is again clear. You simply don't care that your prescriptions will inevitably lead to the disintegration of justice.<br /><br />I don't know about the UK, but in the US we already have a system where dollars are more important that votes, and it's not working very well.CapitalistImperialistPighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17523405806602731435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-69308003251462870022019-07-11T08:36:23.576+00:002019-07-11T08:36:23.576+00:00I believe one of the claims in the Jimmy Saville c...I believe one of the claims in the Jimmy Saville case was that he was never prosecuted because the police believed they could never beat his legal team and would end up paying him large damages.<br /><br />iirc. In the Roman Republic there was a law that it was illegal to accept payment for defending someone in court. Doubtless the rich still got off more often than not.<br />Andy Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14975141756383175819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-33261693682282775912019-07-11T01:47:25.074+00:002019-07-11T01:47:25.074+00:00Taking Epstein's last prison stay as a Bayseia...Taking Epstein's last prison stay as a Bayseian prior, it could be The Broadmoor.Russellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-71417058395494055662019-07-11T00:56:37.512+00:002019-07-11T00:56:37.512+00:00What is the name of the maximum security federal p...What is the name of the maximum security federal prison in Colorado? David B. Bensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15914145623997712113noreply@blogger.com