tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post8794024528392196268..comments2024-03-27T23:59:49.801+00:00Comments on Stoat: The partisan divide largely stems from conservatives’ perception...William M. Connolleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05836299130680534926noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-78624016416839991302023-02-02T09:27:09.182+00:002023-02-02T09:27:09.182+00:00Normally, I'd capitalise first and then abbrev...Normally, I'd capitalise first and then abbreviate; I've added the caps now.William M. Connolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05836299130680534926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-24305341070659453482023-02-01T22:34:12.825+00:002023-02-01T22:34:12.825+00:00OA = Our Author (took a little bit of time, but th...OA = Our Author (took a little bit of time, but that is what I surmise).<br /><br />OA = Susan Joy Hassol in this case.Everett F Sargenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00201577558036010680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-12576294163257977722023-02-01T22:10:46.767+00:002023-02-01T22:10:46.767+00:00Before there was UnSciAm there was Frank Luntz ......Before there was UnSciAm there was Frank Luntz ... <br />https://www.amazon.com/Words-That-Work-What-People/dp/1401309291<br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Luntz<br /><br />You should add that to your links even!Everett F Sargenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00201577558036010680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-63273679452369682192023-01-29T20:32:23.090+00:002023-01-29T20:32:23.090+00:00For Exxon on carbon taxes, see Exxon's Support...For Exxon on carbon taxes, see <a href="https://wmconnolley.wordpress.com/2015/12/22/exxons-support-of-a-tax-on-carbon-rhetoric-or-reality/" rel="nofollow">Exxon's Support of a Tax on Carbon: Rhetoric or Reality?</a> That's 2015, but I'm not aware of anything that has changed since (see-also <a href="https://mustelid.blogspot.com/2018/02/exxonmobil-positioning-for-lower-carbon.html" rel="nofollow">ExxonMobil: Positioning for a Lower-Carbon Energy Future?</a> from 2018). As for my opinions, they remain unchanged.William M. Connolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05836299130680534926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-52662069723897161622023-01-29T19:23:08.938+00:002023-01-29T19:23:08.938+00:00Considering your hard-nosed realism in nearly all ...Considering your hard-nosed realism in nearly all other respects, you display profound naïveté with regard to carbon taxes - at least with regard to their adoption in the U.S. The Republican party will not support a carbon tax, because its base will not support anything containing the word "tax." (Yes, this includes a revenue-neutral carbon tax.) And the oil industry knows this. When Phil asks why Exxon is suggesting a carbon tax, the extremely obvious answer is that – because Exxon knows that there is no chance of the U.S. taking this path – supporting a carbon tax has no economic downside, while having the upside of making Exxon appear reasonable.<br /><br />The question we need answered in the U.S. is, "what are market-based solutions that are not a carbon tax?" Any market-based discussion that does not begin here is stillborn.Mark Arnesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00405144110125493735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-54054658816978814412023-01-29T13:04:57.544+00:002023-01-29T13:04:57.544+00:00If you want a carbon tax, move to British Columbia...If you want a carbon tax, move to British Columbia.<br /><br />Washington State is less left, and a carbon tax failed to pass a referendum. The right side of the State, which is also leans Right, was overwhelmingly against it.<br /><br />I can't even imagine Texas passing a carbon tax.<br /><br />So why is Exxon suggesting a carbon tax?<br />Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567197089095711546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-76995731404972605422023-01-26T13:17:54.890+00:002023-01-26T13:17:54.890+00:00I am highly desirous of carbon taxes and accompany...I am highly desirous of carbon taxes and accompanying tariffs to insure a level playing field.<br /><br />There is one real problem with a carbon tax. If it works, it quits working. Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12747117922597525042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-38442931217294265532023-01-25T18:54:20.105+00:002023-01-25T18:54:20.105+00:00This is one of the references.
https://noahpinion...<br />This is one of the references.<br /><br />https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/why-has-climate-economics-failed?s=r<br /><br />"Economists have their ideas for solving climate change — a hefty carbon tax chief among them — but Biden and his team see this as fundamentally a political problem. They view the idea that a carbon tax is the essential answer to the problem of climate change as being so divorced from political reality as to be actively dangerous."<br />Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567197089095711546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-1620816286434831902023-01-25T18:45:38.464+00:002023-01-25T18:45:38.464+00:00The big problem with a carbon tax is politics, at ...The big problem with a carbon tax is politics, at least in the USA. The right overwhelmingly rejects it.<br /><br />But you know that.<br /><br /><br />https://www.thedailybeast.com/louis-anslow-asks-did-russia-putin-and-jesse-benton-astroturf-the-libertarian-ron-paul-revolution<br /><br /><br />Ron Paul likes Jeremy Corbyn.<br /><br />http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/peace-and-prosperity/2023/january/20/jeremy-corbyn-free-julian-assange-and-end-the-ukraine-war/<br /><br /><br />Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567197089095711546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-41014001981068798292023-01-25T18:17:45.649+00:002023-01-25T18:17:45.649+00:00> {{cn}}
I would have been better reading the ...> {{cn}}<br /><br />I would have been better reading <a href="https://www.niskanencenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Are-Economists-Wrong-About-Carbon-Pricing.pdf" rel="nofollow">the actual report</a> rather than the summary, because that clarifies things: "what is needed is a different approach to pricing, one that begins with a politically determined target and works backward from there to develop practical policies for reaching it". So it seems from that they aren't interested in the economics very much (hence the lack of cites for their rather dubious assertions); they're simply going for the politics. Which is indeed a thing, just as long as you're careful to distinguish them.William M. Connolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05836299130680534926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-17472923749130404792023-01-25T17:53:01.520+00:002023-01-25T17:53:01.520+00:00http://romaninukraine.com/putins-libertarians/ is ...http://romaninukraine.com/putins-libertarians/ is from 2014; do you have anything more recent? Ah, https://www.rawstory.com/rand-paul-libertarian/. But that isn't very good. The central part is the Twatter clip (https://twitter.com/HeartlandSignal/status/1518984986392735744) but the text they quote is not honest; B says "That does not give Russia the right to attack them" and RP says something like "no-one is saying that it does". As ever, sources to Youtube are shitty; we really need a transcript.<br /><br />And then it goes on to "It’s easy to bash Rand Paul for being a toady for Putin: His grandson-in-law, who was convicted of campaign fraud for crimes he committed running Paul’s campaign (and who Trump then pardoned), was just last month again charged with campaign fraud..." which is like weird, maaan. THey're smearing him with what his g-i-l is accused of? That might well be bad, of course, but really can they find nothing better that RP has actually said or done?<br /><br />So I'm unimpressed. I don't defend RP, I don't greatly care about him, but I'm unimpressed by what you've presented.<br /><br />> https://www.niskanencenter.org/are-economists-wrong-about-carbon-pricing/<br /><br />"Economists... favorite tools, carbon taxes and emissions trading" - excellent start: we agree then that is a correct description on the std.econ consensus.<br /><br />> To avoid the problems of the SCC, an increasing number of economists advocate a “target-consistent” approach to policy<br /><br />{{cn}}. Note the absence of any such.<br /><br />Me on Putin: <a href="https://mustelid.blogspot.com/2022/03/the-evil-empire-strikes.html" rel="nofollow">The Evil Empire strikes</a>. From which "But the pattern - of an Evil Autocrat getting into power - is sadly all to common: Gaddafi, Assad, Putin"; so I'm fully in accord with your "Putin is just the latest".William M. Connolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05836299130680534926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-16427039603595794682023-01-25T16:39:05.978+00:002023-01-25T16:39:05.978+00:00I do wonder when someone is going to make an "...I do wonder when someone is going to make an "internet law" about mentions of Putin. Or Chairman Mao. Same thing, different disguise.<br /><br />https://youtu.be/BGLGzRXY5Bw<br /><br /><br />Throughout history there have been lots of examples of thugs ruling countries, surrounded by toadies that tell them how great the thugs are, as the thugs start bloody pointless wars. Putin is just the latest.<br /><br />Thugs like Putin don't seem to exist in Libertarian Land. Elected leaders, librarians, teachers, scientists, medical doctors, drag queens (excluding George Santos, of course), those are the enemies of Real Libertarians. Not bloody thugs like Putin.<br /><br /><br />http://romaninukraine.com/putins-libertarians/<br /><br />https://www.rawstory.com/rand-paul-libertarian/<br /><br /><br />Oh, and some suggested light reading on carbon pricing.<br /><br />https://www.niskanencenter.org/are-economists-wrong-about-carbon-pricing/<br />Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567197089095711546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-21650705351153024512023-01-25T12:39:18.250+00:002023-01-25T12:39:18.250+00:00mustelid.blogspot.com/2019/03/godwins-law.html.<a href="https://mustelid.blogspot.com/2019/03/godwins-law.html" rel="nofollow">mustelid.blogspot.com/2019/03/godwins-law.html</a>.William M. Connolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05836299130680534926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-21663031062201178852023-01-25T12:28:14.738+00:002023-01-25T12:28:14.738+00:00Perhaps
Hitler might have approved of a policy to...Perhaps<br /><br />Hitler might have approved of a policy to strangle Medicaid but surely only if it were to the overall benefit of the Aryan population. As I understand it it is not only those whom Hitler would consider undesirables, such as Jews, homosexuals and coloured, that benefit from Medicaid. Hitler also seems to have been driven by eugenics, vegetarianism and promoting the benefits of not smoking and not drinking. He seems to have had a certain amount in common with Fauci Graemehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11007306140530173428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-48326805392853018932023-01-23T16:49:30.650+00:002023-01-23T16:49:30.650+00:00Yes. Many in the USA want the government small and...Yes. Many in the USA want the government small and weak enough to drown in a bathtub.<br /><br />https://theweek.com/articles/684754/gop-plot-drown-medicaid-bathtub<br /><br />Hitler would have loved a USA like that.<br /><br />So would Putin, and many "conservatives" love and admire Putin.<br />Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567197089095711546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-73335018130363650432023-01-23T13:54:18.015+00:002023-01-23T13:54:18.015+00:00No, my point is that a significant percentage of p...No, my point is that a significant percentage of powerful people get hives at the mention of the word 'tax.' Especially in the U.S.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12747117922597525042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-85355711493014804732023-01-22T19:49:56.759+00:002023-01-22T19:49:56.759+00:00Tom, is your point that a carbon tax operates indi...Tom, is your point that a carbon tax operates indirectly, whereas activists want to stop or prohibit activities they deplore? Graemehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11007306140530173428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-21251236395870220132023-01-22T15:04:39.027+00:002023-01-22T15:04:39.027+00:00Language is very important in the climate conversa...Language is very important in the climate conversation, which uses, umm... words. <br /><br />'The planet has a fever.' Kinda obviously ridiculous, but strong in emotive power. Language is used by organizations to frame the boundaries of conversation about an issue. 'Denier,' with its conscious association with previous classes of people given that label. Even 'alarmist,' with the connotations referring back to the Jeremiahs of biblical times.<br /><br />Conservatives use 'big government' to tar and feather any program they disapprove of. More value-laden language.<br /><br />The problem with 'carbon tax' isn't the carbon.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12747117922597525042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-69628649809131623402023-01-21T15:32:20.501+00:002023-01-21T15:32:20.501+00:00A reference for you.
https://thehill.com/policy/e...A reference for you.<br /><br />https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/283029-house-condemns-carbon-tax/<br />Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567197089095711546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7612793.post-14074638014714499222023-01-21T12:41:10.130+00:002023-01-21T12:41:10.130+00:00Rather than return to the earlier thread on Public...Rather than return to the earlier thread on Public Choice theory, I will post what seems to me to be an interesting statement in the relevant wpda article<br /><br />" it is sometimes asserted that public choice theory has an anti-state tilt. But there is ideological diversity among public choice theorists. Mancur Olson for example was an advocate of a strong state and instead opposed political interest group lobbying. More generally, James Buchanan has suggested that public choice theory be interpreted as "politics without romance", a critical approach to a pervasive earlier notion of idealized politics set against market failure."<br /><br />It is a pity that your interlocutors then did not engage with research, from a Public Choice standpoint, of rent-seeking, department building, interest or advocacy groups v the general public: all of which topics crop up frequently in discussions of what to do about "global warming". Graemehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11007306140530173428noreply@blogger.com