2005-10-29

Shaken by Tossers. Or not.

Eli Rabbett is laying into Taken by Storm. He has a link to their "briefing" if you really want to read it (I found this via Tim Lambert, who provides you with a link to his earlier demolition).

But what I wanted to discuss was not their arguments, but why they have been totally ignored. And they have been. Not even the knee-jerk septics have done more than nod in their direction.

Firstly, because their idea that global mean temperature is meaningless is such obvious pap that anyone can see that.

Secondly, because their arguments to try to prop up this assertion are sufficiently convoluted that there is not the slightest chance of non-specialists understanding them.

The latter I think is important. If you want to sound off as a GW septic, you need a good sound bite that appears to make sense. Waving your glass at a party saying "of course, global temperature doesn't exist, because..." and then trying to spout pages of gobbledegook that you can't remember is just going to make you sound like a fool.

The obvious contrast is with the M&M attack on the MBH hockey stick stuff. Here, instead of trying to replace the bleedin' obvious with some subtle convolutions, they are trying to attack a fairly subtle technique and pick nits in it. This is far easier to sell, and it has.

6 Comments:

Anonymous TCO said...

Is it worth my time to look at the M&E stuff? Steve doesn't even stand by it. I hope it is not like Pielke saying that momemntum is not conserved in inelastic collisions...

1:11 pm  
Blogger Belette said...

I suspect that M&E is a bit of an embarassment to him. I confess to have not read it, only various synopses such as the briefing Eli refers to, so I don't suppose I should advise oyu on whether to read it or not...

3:03 pm  
Anonymous per said...

Dear William
is it true that you are on parole at Wikipedia for excessive editing of wiki pages ?
yours
per

6:22 pm  
Blogger Belette said...

Not in those terms. And don't believe Lubos - he has been brushed aside, and his understanding of the situation is weak.

7:06 pm  
Anonymous Coby said...

Dear William,

How does it feel to be a real celebrity? And you must be because you seem to have your own "per"sonal stalker!

7:04 pm  
Blogger Belette said...

Yes, I have a pet troll, and my own personal reviewer (Lubos).

1:31 pm  

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