2024-01-26

A Muslim faith leader calls for stronger moral leadership in the Middle East?

IMG_20240126_091739_213 Shamelessly and I think unironically posted in the Economist (arch). It is the usual lazy unthinking tripe that such people can spew out by the yard, largely recycled from other people's tripe.

What is actually needed in the Middle East, and arguably lots of other places as well, is for most people to stop caring so much about other people's problems1. I've kinda said this already so I suppose I should expand a little. Our Writer writes We need moral leadership from religious figures on all sides: a determination to condemn not just the violence against “our own”, but also by those who claim to act on our behalf and this isn't true; what instead all these people should do is Fuck Off and remove the beams from their own eyes. The Middle East is notable for dictatorships and corruption (errm, with at least one obvious exception), expecting it to provide moral leadership is absurd.

In particular the idea that <people of religion X> should care deeply about <other people of religion X> is stupid tribalism that the world would be better without. But alas that kind of idea is not one that a "faith leader" is going to put forward. Even phrasing it as "messages which explicitly seek to acknowledge the “other”" is wrong. He is in favour of "diplomacy of the heart" but this is dumb; it is what leads to the "ambassador recalls, trade suspensions" which he condems; what is actually needed is heads, not hearts.

The poster children for this nonsense are the Houthi clowns, who despite being dirt poor and indeed only propped up by aid, nonetheless use their valuable resources to fire missiles into the sea. The West is, tiredly, knocking them back a bit; eventually we will get bored and knock them back further.

Speaking of corruption, South Africa comes to mind, and the recent ICJ case; wherein I find "The Court considers that, with regard to the situation described above, Israel must, in accordance with its obligations under the Genocide Convention, in relation to Palestinians in Gaza, take all measures within its power to prevent the commission of all acts within the scope of Article II of this Convention, in particular: (a) killing members of the group;...". This is obvious nonesense too; Isreal, as everyone agrees, will inevitably kill some civilians if operations continue; the only way to satisfy this would be to stop, which the court didn't order. If we read the judgement less literally to only mean "act in accordance with the convention" then that's just meaningless, because that obligation already exists.

Aid to Gaza and beyond at risk of collapse due to funding cuts, says UNRWA

Sez the Graun. And you'll find simimilar elsewhere no doubt. What's entirely missing is a thought that they are trying very hard to avoid thinking, and so blinkered are they that they have succeeded. The thought is "hmm, I wonder, just possibly, are there any other nations other than the West, just possibly some geographically close, who might have large amounts of dosh sloshing around that they could give? Nations that have, nominally at least, expressed great concern for the plight of the Palestinians". Another thought that is not being thought: though much of this goes to buy aid, much of it goes to salaries. But the Gazans receiving those salaries don't have a lot of other career options at the moment, so may as well continue working for nowt, or for promises - the Graun expresses concern about schoolteaching, for example.


Notes

1. You may perhaps think that I'm being hypocritical here. Not so! While I'm "happy" to spectate, I don't-if-I'm-honest really care much about these people's problems.

Refs

Hamas attack: US pauses UNRWA funding over claims of staff involvement.

"We could seat her on the block," I told the alcalde. I could not resist adding, "It's more suited to that anyway."

12 comments:

Peter H said...
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Anonymous said...

Netanyahu Said that "Like every country, Israel has the basic right to self-defense." Agreed.

And in Israel's case, if that means killing ten times as many Israelis are Israelis are killed then so be it. And don't try victim blaming as an excuse for that wanton killing & destruction (how many children have died, how houses are left in Gaza?). Hamas are horrible, but were I a Palastinian (I am not) I don't think 'like' or 'nice' would be how I would describe Israel.

Further N. said "“On the eve of International Holocaust Remembrance Day, I again pledge as prime minister of Israel — Never Again,” he added, promising to “continue to do what is necessary to defend our country and defend our people.”.

But there is a problem. If it became the Israeli people or their foes surviving what would he do? It is clear what he would do..

Nathan said...

" The Middle East is notable for dictatorships and corruption"

Which is exactly as the West likes it... This is all by design.

"with at least one obvious exception"
Yet even they seem to really enjoy killing people.

"The poster children for this nonsense are the Houthi clowns"
far out, why not try and understand why people turn to terrorism?

" You may perhaps think that I'm being hypocritical here"
no, you're being lazy and possibly racist

William M. Connolley said...

> why people turn to terrorism?

People become frustrated with how the world is and prefer it to be some other way. The great mass of people react passively and do little or nothing. In most of the West, there is at least a symbolic outlet that satisfies many of the rest, in the political process. But in some places - and it does seem to have become institutionalised in those places - terrorism has become near-normalised and is it would seem a widely available choice. It is also a bad choice (morally, and in terms of achieving any kind of useful result) but alas young men often don't stop to think of that; and nor (if the polls are to be believed) are their elders much better.

So it is a failure of society, of culture - but not of race; after all they are all much the same. RH's Why Palestine Can't Deliver Peace is somewhat relevant. Their society is broken. Accepting that is hard; blaming all your woes on someone else is much easier.

Anonymous said...

Humm, I thought I didn't like the tone of Hanania's piece - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hanania

Though Israel does seem to blame everyone else for their woes.

Nathan said...

". RH's Why Palestine Can't Deliver Peace is somewhat relevant. Their society is broken. Accepting that is hard; blaming all your woes on someone else is much easier."

You're an intelligent person. Why is any of that even remotely convincing?
The Government of Israel doesn't support a two-state solution either. It's just a rationale for conflict.

"..given the almost unblemished record of Arabs being unable to build stable and functioning societies in the aftermath of attempts to create a new political order?"
And that statement is utterly racist. There have been many stable, long lived Arab nations. BUT over the last century stability in the Middle East has been very difficult. Maybe you could ponder why that may be


The only way to peace here is the two state solution - Or genocide. Complaining that you don't think the Arabs are capable just means they may need some help.

Nathan said...

"Humm, I thought I didn't like the tone of Hanania's piece - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hanania"

oh God, what a jerk.

William M. Connolley said...

It would probably be bad if you did like the tone, he can be annoying; but he has intelligent things to say and so is worth reading.

Nathan said...

"People become frustrated with how the world is and prefer it to be some other way. "
Urgh...

Maybe start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

Nathan said...

"A Muslim faith leader calls for stronger moral leadership in the Middle East?"

Do you understand racism at all?
Do you see the racism in this headline?

The implication is the Muslim faith leaders are not able to present strong moral leadership.

William M. Connolley said...

The headline is the Economist's. The post is mine; try reading it, since you're keen on understanding. I have no doubt that M faith leaders are able to present strong moral leadership. What I'm trying to say is that's a problem, not a solution. At least, for the kind of morality they're interested in.

Nathan said...

Yes, it's what you did with the headline that made it racist (I wasn't as clear as I could be)

But then you continued with the racism with: "What I'm trying to say is that's a problem, not a solution. At least, for the kind of morality they're interested in."

If you're characterising an entire group/race/religion/sect as bad then that's racist.
Try changing 'Muslim Faith leader" to any other race/religion etc. It's pretty clearly racist.

You also keep linking to racist articles. The one above for example and this one https://www.richardhanania.com/p/israel-must-crush-palestinian-hopes